thirdeye, Yes Master.Mortar and pestle makes good sense.The turbinado sugar in the rub is a bit coarse and it makes sense to mash it down a bit.Right on about not having a tough product from cooking it to long.For me it would be a good dash of R/R,but the wife does not like heat so for her just a pinch will do.Don't you love it when one partner likes heat and the other one does not unless you sneak it in on her? Looks like I will have to make ten with heat and ten with a pinch.Oh well anything to keep them happy.