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Topic History of: Burnning gasket the sequal
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Grandpas Grub RRP,

Don't know Celtic Wolf, however he has been helpful to me.

Sorry I missed the inside joke.

Kent

RRP stike,
THAT was funny!!!!!!!!!!

stike Grandpas Grub,
have you met celtic wolf? you guys would get along well.


Grandpas Grub stike,

There are plenty of references if you will take a minute to do a google search using 'Carbon
Monoxide'

Carbon Monoxide gas does NOT burn in and of itself. Hence people die from Carbon monoxide
poisoning – they don’t burn up and we don’t hear of people burning up from carbon monoxide fires.

In the egg we wait for the white smoke to turn to the almost clear blueish smoke. The white smoke
and or clear bluish smoke is all carbon monoxide which is one byproduct of our carbon (lump), oxygen
and heat interacting.

From experience we all know adding air to a smoking fire (in the egg or a camp fire) we ‘fan or
blow’ the coals to get the fire to spread. We don’t add carbon monoxide we add oxygen. Some
might add more heat but eventually they add oxygen. To cool the egg down we restrict oxygen (shut
the fire down somewhat). If one watches the upper vent when we restrict oxygen we will see some
smoke begin (carbon monoxide).

Introduce oxygen to heated carbon monoxide (smoke) and you will get a flare up (flashover/flashback)
one will also hear a bit of an explosion – a ‘poof’ as it were.

The yellow flame vs blue flame only changes due to the ratio of oxygen, heat & fuel.

Yellow as you say is a cooler flame plume. Blue is a hotter flame plume. Flashover occurs at temps
at and above 930° F and the energy produced by the burning/flashback/flashover is a result of heat
and or super heat. This is well documented via studies in behalf of the fire departments. A
fireman in full protective gear (normal protective gear) only has less than 2 seconds to evacuate in
a flashover situation.

To further illustrate the yellow/blue fire plume...

In welding with gas/acetylene one turns on the acetylene and lights the gas. A large yellow
(relative low heat) flame begins. Fusing two metals cannot be accomplished until that flame is
hotter. With the yellow acetylene flame burning oxygen is slowly introduced to the mixture. The
yellow flame with huge amounts of black smoke turns to a clean burning blue flame. The highest heat
consideration of heat is at the tip of the blue flame. One can somewhat seem the same affect with a
propane or map torch.

Another good every day example is the common gas fireplace logs. Logs which produce yellow flame
must be vented or carbon monoxide poisoning will occur. The newer logs which produce a blue flame
burn up to 100% of the natural gas and will produce little or no carbon monoxide. Thus no venting
is required and is safe to heat a room without risk of carbon monoxide poisoning.

The newer gas logs have a safety feature with the pilot & gas valve that if something restricts the
oxygen ration the fuel supply will shut of and not ignite. The safety feature is to eliminate any
possibility of carbon monoxide poising.

In our ‘egg world’, the super heated blue flame will follow any and all oxygen sources available;
bottom vent, top chimney (dome vent) bad seal around the gasket, anywhere oxygen can get to the
heated lump.

Fire can only be present when there is a proper ration of heat, fuel and oxygen. Carbon monoxide
will be produced by the unburned fuel and will have a more or less concentrated depending on the
heat, fuel, oxygen ratio.

This is all very easily verified in searching google, in fact take a quick look in widipedia search
for flashover. Here is the link to the flashover reference in Wikipedia if you have the interest

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flashover

Interesting research and fun discussion… but it is time to get some hands on experience. Off to
start up the egg for Sunday dinner.

Kent

Grandpas Grub Eggnoramus,

Glad to hear the news.

Good eatin, Kent

Eggnoramus Grandpas Grub,
Thanks to this forum I was able to get my gasket unstuck last night and on closer inspection this AM
it appears OK. I was making burgers and thought it would be a good idea to burn off the grill junk
by cranking up the heat. It appears that the gasket fused together on the inside edge about 1/16
inch in and I was able to quickly take my spatula and free it loose. The gasket this morning seems
fine and is not loose. The gasket material is more dense though and appears \"broke-in\" to me. All
is good. I just have to keep the kids away from it now when opening the lid. I never seen kids love
a grill before, they think its the coolest thing. Thanks again everyone!!!
Eggnoramus